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12:49 am
September 19, 2011
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Darkrobin
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Let me start off by saying how thankful I am that I found this website. I've been playing with polys for awhile and never knew the proper way to string them. I'm new to the world of stringing as I just recently bought my first machine. I've done about 10 racquets so far and I'm only getting more consistent.
My question is this, when I pull tension on a string (so that the bar is horizontal) I then release my flying clamp and the weight arm drops by a little bit. Should I ratchet it up again so its level or should I leave it where it is?
I've also been wondering about a full poly bed vs a hybrid setup. What are the true benefits of doing a hybrid setup vs a full poly? I've never had arm problems, I'm a solid 4.0 lefty with a high topspin forehand and a slightly flatter one handed backhand.
Currently I'm playing with Genesis Typhoon 16g strung at 48 pounds. I recently purchased numerous sets of polys I want to try out including Weisscannon B5E, Genesis Black Magic, Babolat RPM Blast, and Dunlop Black Widow. Would all of these strings benefit from lower tensions? (I know the B5E does but I haven't heard you guys discussing any of the other ones l listed.)
Thank you so much and keep up the posts on the website, they are extremely helpful and informative.
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8:14 am
September 19, 2011
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DarkRobin – Thank you for participating in our discussion forum. I will do my best to address your questions.
1. Once you have released the clamp, you would NOT want to reset the bar as doing so could impact the tension of the entire racquet. While we hope the bar does not drop significantly when you release the clamp, this drop will impact the stringbed far less than trying to compensate for it. As you gain more experience and allow the strings to elongate before clamping you should see less movement in your bar as you remove the clamp.
2. Hybrids can consist of 2 different polys as well a poly and synthetic or a poly and gut. The beauty/advantage of hybrids is that you can combine string characteristics in a unique way to offer different levels of performance. Stringing full co polys at low tensions should not impact your arm in a negative way. Since you mention topspin I would suggest sticking with a full copoly setup as these setups generally help produce greater amounts of spin than combining with synthetics.
3. We don't comment on the first book of the bible strings here so maybe another poster will chime in for you. In terms of the RPM Blast, it is not our favorite offering as it tends to hold less well some other copolys. Black Widow is a string we have not used so I am unable to comment on that one. I can tell you that while Blast does not hold as well, it will perform better at lower tensions using the installation method we describe.
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1:00 pm
September 19, 2011
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Darkrobin
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Thanks for the quick reply. As I'm new to the stringing scene I'm just starting to learn how important quality of string is. I never knew companies like Weisscannon or MSV even existed. I've been putting all my playtest experience with different string in an excel sheet, might make for some interesting reading once I'm all done. You guys rock, thanks.
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5:40 pm
November 1, 2011
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Leung
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I just realized something when I strung my last racket with poly strings using the technique described in your blog: immediately after tensioning a string with a dropweight machine, do you first release the previous clamp and then let the string sit under tension for 10-15 seconds or do you first let the string sit under tension for 10-15 seconds and then release the previous clamp?
I have been using the former method and I noticed that the weight bar drops slightly below horizontal right after I release the previous clamp. During the 10-15 seconds after I release the clamp. the bar drops down further, but only by a barely visible amount. I assume this is when the slack is removed from the poly strings, which negates the initial tension loss?
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7:15 pm
November 1, 2011
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GGTennis
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Leung – I believe you can do it either way as long as you are being consistent. I think your observations and assumptions are accurate.
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5:59 am
January 3, 2012
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Irvin
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I don't use a drop weight (but I do understand how they work) so I am just thinking with my keypad here. LOL
When you tension a string it does one of two things it stretches or it loses tension. Once a string is clamped or tied off it just loses tension unless there is an outside force that stretches it again like a tennis ball. Tennis strings do not stretch at a constant rate they lose a lot of tension very quickly as compared to the tension they lose after time.
If you have a constant pull and you pull tension and clamp. There is some time difference between the time you initially apply force, and the time you clamp the string. In that time difference you may have given the string enough time to stretch while under constant pull and you may not have. Let's assume you did not give the string enough time to properly stretch out what happens? You lose tension in the string, right! But that is something you can't see. Now you tension the next string. Assuming there is a large difference in the string you are tensioning and the string you just released from the clamp the tensions will try to equalize and your drop weight arm falls.
If you want to get the proper stretch in your string and keep that tension from making a big drop right after you string it you need to slow down. Allow the string to stretch properly before you clamp it and I think your problem will go away.
Irvin
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8:11 pm
March 11, 2012
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mixedmedia
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How long is too long to wait? At some point doesn't it remove some of the good elasticity, i.e. harm the strings' characteristics?
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